E-Mail Blog between Asda and myself
Here is the email transcript from start to finish:
Dear Asda Customer services
Re: Disability Discrimination Act (DDA)
On 2nd January 2007, I was unable to use your disabled parking at your Newstead
Road Asda in Weymouth Dorset.
This is because one of your disabled spaces were taken by a non blue badge
driver. As a result, it was unreasonably difficult for me to access your
premises and use your services.
I have a mobility disability after an accident which I now hold a blue badge to
ease shopping for me. I do not drive but have someone drive me when I need to go
out. On this occasion I had to wait for a space to become free to park as
walking from a distance is not an option for me.
As I am sure you are aware, the Disability Discrimination Act says that where a
physical feature makes it impossible or unreasonably difficult for disabled
people to make use of any service which is offered to the public, a service
provider must take reasonable steps to:
remove the feature, or
alter the feature, or
provide a reasonable means of avoiding the feature, or provide a reasonable
alternative method to making the service available to disabled people.
You have provided spaces for blue badge holders to park and this is great to
allow access to your store from a shorter distance and also having wide access
bay to park in.
However it seems that it is local policy to allow non blue badge holders to park
in these bays and thus breaking the DDA by reducing the access while they park
there.
I have written a complaint in the stores complaint book but have had no reply. I
have spoken to staff members who have all told me that the store manager has
told the TCP parking attendant that he can not issue fines to rule breakers,
just take numbers. He has been told by three managers within the store that he
must no get involved and to allow anyone to park in those dedicated spaces. This
does breach the DDA as stated above by hindering / removing the dedicated access
for blue badge holders.
I believe the TCP parking attendant as I have heard him talking to the rule
breaker who had parked when I had difficulty on the 2nd January and he has
nothing to hide has he?
Please could you also explain the steps you intend to take so that disabled
customers like myself can have access to your services on the same basis as
non-disabled people and have full and exclusive access to the blue badge parking
spaces at the Weymouth Asda Store at all times? I would also like to you to
confirm to me and to TCP that rule breakers will be fined and there will not be
any further hindrance by the local managers? This needs to be passed on the TCP
parking attendants on the Weymouth Asda site.
I look forward to receiving your reply within 14 days. If I do not receive a
reply within 14 days I reserve the right to take action under the Disability
Discrimination Act.
Yours faithfully
Kelly
From: Peter Smith
Sent: 24 January 2007 09:09
To: Kelly
Subject: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000014987647)
Thank you for your message.
Dear Kelly,
Thank you for taking the time to contact us, I was sorry to learn of the
problems you had when using our disabled parking bays. We are very concerned
about this problem and try hard to make sure that only disabled customers use
these spaces. We display notices in the car parks and our trolley porters and
greeters monitor the bays and approach customers who may be misusing the areas.
In many stores we put leaflets on windscreens or tannoy the registration numbers
of cars that seem to be incorrectly parked. However, despite all these
precautions we are still reliant on customers who are not entitled to use the
bays showing consideration for others.
One difficulty is that sometimes customers who are bringing elderly or infirm
relatives to the store use the spaces. Even though they may not formally qualify
for a blue badge these passengers can often have quite severe mobility problems.
It is genuinely extremely difficult for us to differentiate between genuine
cases and those abusing the system. Obviously we do not want to offend any of
our customers and penalising those who are temporarily infirm would cause upset
and inconvenience.
For these reasons we have decided that clamping would not be an effective or
customer friendly way of controlling the problem. However to reduce misuse of
disabled parking spaces we have carried out the following trials:
The Spacehog trial was introduced in 1996. The trial began in twelve stores and
involved fitting all disabled parking spaces with a detector which senses the
arrival of a car into the space. This triggers a nearby talking sign which plays
the ASDA jingle and reminds the customer that that the space is reserved for
disabled customers asking them to park elsewhere. This trial has been so
successful we have rolled it out to a further 150 stores
Number plate recognition technology to control access to specially designated
parking areas for our disabled customers has been implemented at Eastbourne,
High Wycombe and Bridge Of Dee stores with further installations likely in the
near future. With the Automated Number Plate Recognition system customers must
first register their number plate details at the Customer Service Desk. In order
to qualify customers must be a disabled permit (blue badge) holder. Customer
details are input into a special PC which is connected to the barrier/camera
system. When a registered customer drives up to the barrier the camera reads and
recognises their number plate and then raises the barrier to allow entry to the
area. Alongside this scheme we always provide additional disabled bays outside
of the Automated Number Plate Recognition zone to allow for one-off shoppers who
may not be registered.
We are unique amongst retailers in using these methods to prevent abuse of
disabled parking and feedback to date has been extremely positive. We are
planning to introduce these measures at all of our stores as part of our effort
to provide successful solutions to enhance parking provisions for those
customers with a disability. In addition we have been undertaking a programme of
works across all stores to ensure that we have a sufficient number of disabled
spaces and that they are clearly marked with signage and surface markings, this
is in compliance with the Disability Discrimination Act.
I am very sorry that your visits to our store have been spoilt in this way and
hope that as parking difficulties reduce we can look forward to your continued
custom.
Thank you again for taking the time to write to us and I trust that you are
reassured about our commitment to providing our customers with above average
standards and facilities.
Yours Sincerely,
Pete Smith
Customer Relations
From: Mark Wright
Sent: 13 March 2007 11:56
To:
Subject: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000015446334)
Thank you for your message.
Thanks for your recent email to my colleague Andy Bond. I've replied in his
absence as I am the customer service manager.
We're now looking into your complaint and you will receive a full response me as
soon I can.
I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused, but, in the meantime, if I can be of any
further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.
Peter
I appreciate your email but you contradict yourself in your own reply. You say
"We are very concerned about this problem and try hard to make sure that only
disabled customers use these spaces." yet you then go to say "One difficulty is
that sometimes customers who are bringing elderly or infirm relatives to the
store use the spaces. Even though they may not formally qualify for a blue badge
these passengers can often have quite severe mobility problems. It is genuinely
extremely difficult for us to differentiate between genuine cases and those
abusing the system. Obviously we do not want to offend any of our customers and
penalising those who are temporarily infirm would cause upset and
inconvenience."
So your saying that drivers without a blue badge are being allowed under your
rules to park in a disabled space. You are using your own clause to overturn the
whole idea of blue badge holders in your own car parks. If this is the case,
then you should not insist that blue badges are required to be displayed and
your Parking attendants are being employed for nothing and should be removed as
a cost saving as there presence is irrelevant as anyone can say that they are
worthy of parking in a disabled space, can't they?
You should remove all signs of disabled parking as you are allowing non disabled
parking in those spaces and in certain stores encouraging it from the
attitude of the manager as in our local store in Weymouth, Dorset.
You either have disabled parking or you do not, you can not have both. The DDA
clearly states that you should provide equal access or provide facilities to
enable access to disabled persons. It dose not say that you should provide the
same for persons who think they can use them, does it? And I am sure that is why
you employ the parking attendants to carryout this task for you or why do you
employ them at all?
We had the signs that gave audio warnings at our Weymouth branch but as we
thought the batteries soon ran out and were not replaced, so they are useless.
If you know how your stores are set up, then you will of course already know
this wont you?
If you want to make an effort to change the way people see disabled spaces at
Weymouth, Dorset, then set up your new barrier system and of course this is fine
by me as it will only allow genuine badge holders to park and once only to use
slightly further away spaces or until this is implemented at Weymouth, Dorset,
let the parking attendant do his job and fine those who do not have a badge.
If you have never been to the Weymouth, Dorset store which I doubt you have,
then you will not know the full situation and you will never be able to give an
accurate response to my concerns. Why don't you come down to Weymouth and have a
few hours with the parking attendant and see what you so called implementations
are doing now and then email me back and tell me that my concerns are not
justified and that your local managers are not breaking the DDA. Do it without
them knowing your coming, please.
I look forward to hearing your findings, until then I reserve my right to legal
action in this case under the DDA. You either support the DDA or Not, there is
no in-between, even on private land if you are offering a service like you are,
then you must be fully compliant.
All I want is to park in a disabled space to do my shopping without non disabled
persons taking the spaces, it is not hard surely?
Regards
Kelly
From: Mark Wright
Date: 19-Mar-2007 19:04
Subject: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000015446334)
To:
Thank you for your message.
Thanks for your recent email and patience whilst I've been looking into your
complaint.
I'm sorry Peter didn't reply to your email and I want to know why. I've spoken
with his manager, Colette, and it appears he accidentally deleted it after
reading it. This isn't good enough and I've asked Colette to work with Peter to
find a way to stop this from happening again.
Our policy is to fine customers who park in disabled bays without a blue
badge. The exception is there will always be customers who are temporarily less
able due to injury or illness. The elderly can be very infirm and need to park
close to the store. We'd always use discretion and empower our wardens to look
at each situation on it's merits. We leave this to the local management team to
police. Any advice you can give us on other things we could do would be
helpful.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us. I hope I've been clear in
explaining our policy. Be sure to let me know if I can help with anything else.
From: kelly
Sent: 31 March 2007 17:02
To: Mark Wright
Subject: RE: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000015446334)
Mark
Many thanks for getting back to me. I have been away for two weeks so I also
apologise for not responding straight away.
I thank you for your response but it still does not really clear anything up at
all.
You agree that people should be finned for parking in blue badge spaces which is
what I feel is right and must continue. However it is the discretion part that
is still very Woolly. You do not state who has the final say with discretion.
I see that the way it should work is that on all Asda car parks that have
parking attendants like we do in Weymouth, then the final say in discretion
should always be with the parking attendant and not with the store Manager.
However in stores that do not have parking attendants like the two I visited
while away (St. Austell and Bodmin in Cornwall) will have discretion decided by
the Store Manager. In all cases these spaces should be patrolled by either staff
or Parking attendants as employed.
I say the above as the experience that I find in the Weymouth car park is that
the Manager does override the parking attendant and continues to do so even
while I was away. As the most recent example shows, on the 22 rd March a woman
with a child parked in a blue badge space, the parking attendant was told by her
that the Store Manager at Weymouth said she can park there whenever she likes if
there are no Child spaces available. And because of this the parking attendant
could not give her a warning or a fine. This is unacceptable and I am sure you
agree that this should not happen and will look in to this.
I would like your policy for Blue Badge Spaces for all stores to be as mention
above but to sum it up:
Asda Car Parks where parking attendants patrol:
Parking attendants have final say in any discretion during their hours of duty
and are able to issues fines that can not be overturned by Store Manager but may
be appealed with the Parking attendants Company (like Town and City Parking
etc if required. Out of hours, Store Duty Managers may use discretion if
required and should arrange patrols but this is not to override any passed or
future decision by the Parking attendants and Store Managers should ensure that
this is abided by and not abused.
Asda Car Parks where parking attendants are not patrolled:
Duty Managers should have responsibility to arrange patrol of the Blue Badge
spaces and fix notices to wind screen to warn abusers that they are parking in
the wrong places. Store Managers should resolve and discretion of parking in
those spaces.
I am sure that you must agree that this is sensible and should enable both
Managers and Parking attendants will then have direct rules to follow and the
wooliness will be taken out of any decision.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this as a company wide procedure on
Blue Badge Parking. It will ensure that you have a good sound policy for
everyone.
Many thanks
Kelly
On 03/04/07, Mark Wright wrote:
Thanks for your most recent email.
I can understand your thoughts. When customer's wish to appeal a fine, they can
appeal to the store, town and city or our head office. Ultimately, it is our
head office colleagues who hold the final say as town and city work for us.
Whenever discretion is used, it is always subjective to the colleague who's
making the decision and another colleague may take a different view. For this
reason this situation will never to as clear cut as we'd perhaps like it to be.
All the same, I've passed your comment on to our car parks team for their
information and to see if they want to proceed with your ideas. Thanks again for
contacting me. I hope I've made this subject clearer for you.
Kind regards,
Mark Wright
ASDA Customer Relations
From: kelly
Sent: 03 April 2007 12:08
To: Mark Wright
Subject: Re: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000015446334)
Mark
Thank you Mark for your reply. I look forward to hearing from you once the Car
Parks team have had chance to respond. I agree that discretion is always
subjective and that is why only one person should have it at any time on site.
If this is not to be the case then lets ensure that your colleagues at head
office are the only ones with discretion. Everyone gets a fine, if they appeal,
they do it through head office and not locally.
Whilst I wait for the Car Parks to reply to you please just note the following
just to refresh your memory:
Disability Discrimination Act
From October 2004, Part III of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 came into
effect within the United Kingdom. This legislation places a legal requirement on
service providers to ensure that disabled people do not find it unreasonably
difficult or impossible to enjoy the service in the same way as non-disabled
people.
Legal Requirements
Whilst the earlier parts of the Act focused primarily on disabled access into
buildings, Part III now looks closer at the issue of car parking. A key element
of Part III is that service providers that operate a car park now have to
'monitor' their disabled bays to prevent abuse by non-disabled drivers. Failure
to provide monitoring could result in a heavy financial penalty, as disabled
drivers exercise their rights to compensation under the terms of the Act.
I was in the car park at Weymouth on Sunday. A car next to the one I was in had
a ticket on his windscreen. He came back to his car with his child, the Parking
Attendant went to talk to him but he ignored him completely, placed the child in
the car peeled off the notice and threw it on the floor, got in his car and
drove off! This is what I am up against. This car had a local number plate but
we have many holiday makers who abuse the spaces from now until October too! I
asked the Parking Attendant about it and he said that this was only a warning
notice but the man never even looked! He told me that this is what he is up
against without any concrete policy. He is armed with a proper ticket issuing
machine but without the policy backing from Head Office, he and all your Parking
attendants must be in the same boat. And we the disabled are the ones who have
to suffer when the spaces were placed for our help and to make access equal to
able-bodied persons.
I wait for your yours and the Car Parks departments response as sorry, this
situation is not going away. If you feel that this is becoming something that
may be too big for your hands, then please pass it all on to Andy Bond. I think
that he should be aware now.
Regards and talk soon.
Kelly
From: Mark Wright
Sent: 03 April 2007 12:56
To: kelly
Subject: RE: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000015446334)
Dear Ms *******,
Thanks for your most recent email.
I've now spoken with my colleague Paul, who looks after this area of the
business within our retail team. He'll ensure our store colleagues pay
particular attention to our disabled bays. He's also stressed we allow short
term less able bodied customer to use these spaces when necessary. We have to
take a common sense approach to these bays. We're fully compliant with DDA and
have been audited as such. We go above and beyond its requirements and are seen
as industry leading in terms of our disability services.
Let me assure you I'm happy to respond to your concerns.
Andy trusts me to deal with our customers, however he's aware of and comfortable
with our correspondence.
Paul feels we've done all we can on this matter and that we now need to draw it
to conclusion. As such, I won't be able to respond to any further contacts on
this subject, but please let me know if I can help with anything else.
Yours sincerely,
Mark Wright
Customer Relations Management
From: kelly
Sent: 10 April 2007 17:47
To: 'Mark Wright'
Subject: RE: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000015446334)
Mark
I appreciate that you feel that this matter should be drawn to a conclusion but
your conclusion is not the same as my idea of a conclusion. If you are unwilling
to answer or forward on any internal responses on this matter or talk further to
me to allow me to get the answers from your car parks dept, then I will pass on
all my emails and list of over 140 non disabled drivers number plates (yes over
140 since January of this year and that’s a lot of illegal parking in disabled
badge spaces as well as lost revenue for you at the Weymouth store) to the
Baywatch campaign at disability now as well as Mobilise and Disability Action. I
am sure they will be able to give me the advise I need. It’s a shame as you
through Susie Williams once supported Baywatch along with your competitors. They
have now left you well behind on tackling disabled parking abuse.
I am not happy that after all this time that we have got nowhere between us or
if we have you have not conveyed anything put in to action back to me. Most of
your stores still allow abuse of the parking bays and this will not change
without a change of Policy by Asda in the UK. I hope that the recent proposal to
the UK law to change it to make any parking in a disabled space (on or off
private land) without a blue badge an offence and this is now being backed by
the DRC amongst others. I look forward to seeing this made law.
The only one saving grace at present is that your Weymouth Manager Darren
Rideout has finally seen the amount of abuse (recorded number plate lists) and
the recent tally of offenders in his car park. He has stated to the TCP
attendants that he will back their decision and that they can issue one warning
notice and then fine them on the second and subsequent offence unless any
discretion by the TCP attendant is given. His customer service team are no
longer allowed to override him and I think that this at least in my local store
is one step closer. I just wish you had the balls to make this or my suggestion
a company policy. If Baywatch was still actively reporting surveys, you would go
straight to the top and not have any comments in disabled persons forums or
blogs as you do now.
I am not giving up until abuse in yours and other car parks is resolved or
policies are in place to control any abuse, so I am not going away even if you
will not talk to me. However you can get in my good books a little by getting
new batteries put in the space hog units so they work again. It must have cost a
few bob to get them installed and you made such a hoo rah about them but you
never changed the batteries when they went flat so if your not going to talk to
me, then please can you arrange this to be done starting at Weymouth. I will be
calling personally for the Manager every time that I see a disabled space being
abused or have to wait because of abuse in what ever Asda store I visit, so soon
they will no me by name and get my message. Hopefully this will now not be
needed in Weymouth but Darren Rideout will soon find out and I will know if
anything from our emails actually did filter back down the managerial chain to
the store managers.
Many thanks and look forward to talking to you again in the future and hearing
those Space hog melodic tunes again.
Regards
Kelly
From: kelly
Sent: 01 May 2007 09:58
To: 'Andy Bond'
Subject: Disabled Parking Policy
Andy Bond
I am really sorry to have to bring this issue to your attention yet again. That
is of course if you really did see the previous comments that Mark Wright wrote
on your behalf and with your approval.
Disabled Parking spaces at your stores are being abused. 192 instances of abuse
since January of this year at the Weymouth store alone. As you can see from the
email correspondence below Mark Wright has now washed his hands of the problem
and has basically refused to talk to me. I hoped that at least he would have
taken some of the items on board and resolved them.
Instead I have proof that the opposite has been done. A document for your
trolley porters seen at the Weymouth store has given Porters permission to
override the TCP Parking attendant and gives permission for the Porters to allow
pregnant women and women with children permission to park in blue badge spaces.
This really does go against the blue badge system and is effectively removing
the spaces at times from the use of any disabled persons.
I would really appreciate it if you could have a look at this documental policy
that has come from Asda House and withdraw this section.
I enclose the previous email for your reading and look forward to hearing from
you really soon. This is going on beyond belief and I am now seriously gathering
all my items of correspondence and the 192 number plates to pass on the media
and disabled societies to use with their campaigns for equal and fair treatment.
Remember ‘Baywatch’, you used to be one its greats!
Regards
Kelly
From: Kelly
Sent: 24 May 2007 15:35
To: Lisa *********
Subject: Disabled Parking Policy (Asda)
Hi Lisa
Can you please pass this on to Andy Bond for me as it seems that he didn’t get
the last email or written copy I posted recorded delivery (and got a signature
for). If he will not entertain it or he insists to try and pass it off please
let me know. I intend to publish a report in the press soon, so he can respond
or if not I will write and state that there is no response from the UK. Please
let him know that I am also in contact with Wal-Mart as Asda’s parent company to
discuss this at a higher level in the absence or continued refusal to discuss
this in the UK.
And if all else fails, please print this and place in a large folder, at least
this way it will be stick out the top of his bin when he throws it away
(hopefully not).
Many thanks for your time today and I hope to hear from you very soon.
Regards
Kelly
Disabled customer
From: Lisa **********
Sent: 24 May 2007 18:16
To: Kelly
Subject: RE: Disabled Parking Policy (Asda)
Hi Kelly
Thank you for your email. Andy is aware of your comments below and is content
for our Customer Services Department to act upon your email on his behalf.
Please send me a contact number and I will make sure Paul Hedley, Customer
Service Project Manager, rings you back as soon as you are available to take the
call.
Many thanks
Lisa
Lisa ********* PA to Andy Bond, President & CEO
Asda Stores Ltd
Lisa
Thank you for getting back to me. I have also copied Paul in on this and if you
see that his email is incorrect I would appreciate it if you could forward it to
him. I am still not sure, as I have again not had any personal response from
your CEO, if he had actually read through this email. I will be very
disappointed if legal action is started over this and he wasn’t aware and could
have done something but it was filtered out before getting to him. This is a
similar reply I got when Mark Wright tried to resolve it and he promised me that
Andy was aware and happy. I am sure he would not have been happy that Mark just
basically refuse to talk to me further! So please Lisa, if this has been
filtered out from Andy’s mail, I think that you should at least mention it in
case it any legal action s taken under the disabled discrimination act.
I will not be sending Paul my phone number as I am unable to record any of the
conversation. I am sure that copies of all correspondence will be enough to
start with and enable him to be brought up to speed with what has and continues
to happen at just one of Andy’s stores across the country. I would hope that he
is also in receipt of the letters from other Weymouth store users letters and
emails in respect to this matter, one I know was sent within the last two weeks
by a Justice of the peace by recorded delivery. He was just sent back the
standard Asda letter on disabled parking. The TCP parking attendant on the
Weymouth site has told me that others have also been in contact over the last
few months and they too had the same response.
It boils down to this. I know your car park in my case is on land owned by
yourself (formerly Weymouth Foot ball club) and as such not privy to the same
law that is on the double yellow lined road outside where your trucks illegally
park at times. You are providing spaces for disabled drivers and call them blue
badge spaces as such by painting them blue with the blue disabled sign in the
bay. The signage says that you will issue a £40 civil penalty fine for any one
parking in them ‘without a valid disabled badge’. This to anyone would mean that
you have designated them for disabled use and not for anyone else. Some spaces
in the Weymouth store opposite and less than 4m away from some disabled spaces
are available for persons with children and are marked in yellow paint against
the blue paint used on the disabled spaces. Some of the spaces are closer to the
doors than some of the disabled spaces.
Your store, by its policy, allows nearly any member of staff from the Manager,
Customer service, Greeter and more recently uncovered from a policy issued to
your trolley porters that at least these persons can overturn the stated signed
policy and allow non disabled badge holders to park in blue disabled spaces and
therefore restrict and as such discriminate or lessen the access to disabled
people to park and use the facilities available at your store or in its grounds.
You employ a company ‘TCP’ to patrol your car parks at some locations including
Weymouth and his job I would presume is to enforce the signage you have placed
in your car parks. Surely it is in their contract to follow the rules of the
signs you have placed and to fine non disabled badge holders and to police that
area, not the store or anyone nearly who works there to do this. If this is the
case, the signs need to come down and TCP need to be removed and let it be a
free for all. I am sure you do not want this either, do you. If there is to be
any discretion as to who can or can not park in disabled bays, then it should be
the TCP attendant where one is patrolling. Now that would be fair considering
that it is private land but it should be on the sign!
Disabled parking abuse is on the up everywhere and hopefully a law trying to be
brought in will enforce the same rules on private land as is on public land and
these issues will go away as you will have to enforce it. Why not take the lead
in this and get one step ahead, use it in any future campaigns or what ever but
please read through my emails get in contact with TCP and talk with Pat the guy
from TCP who is on the Car Park and listen to the letters and emails you have
had about the disabled spaces being abused. The income you have lost through
fines has been horrendous. This should not be overlooked at as a business but on
the other hand if the system worked, the signs were correct and the policy was
right, then the fines would drop as people learnt that disabled spaces in Asda
card parks are for disabled people shopping at Asda. Other wide spaces available
are for others who need them.
Please make sure you read right through this email and not just comment on this
top bit. It has come a long way from its start and at one point I thought it was
sorted at Weymouth until the trolley porter policy came out!
On just one other point, do you know that all through this the Manager or
Weymouth has never made or tried to make any contact with me to ask me what he
could do to help or to just apologise, amazing!
I look forward Paul to hearing from you in the near future once you have been
able to read through, visit Weymouth and talk to the TCP Guy Pat or the company.
Hopefully you will be in a position to make and remove old policies and to
finally get this resolved. Please have no reservations, I will not let it sleep
and that is why I continue to try to get someone further up the ladder in your
company structure to deal with it. I will get this published, I have had
photographs taken ready. I have also been in contact with Wal-Mart as your
parent company because American disabled spaces are far better policed currently
and not abused.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best regards and have a nice Bank Holiday weekend.
Regards
Kelly
From: Mark Wright
Sent: 25 May 2007 15:28
Subject: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000016119168)
Thank you for your message.
Thanks for your emails to my colleagues Andy and Lee. As you know, he has
complete confidence in our team to handle the issues you've raised.
Paul is in receipt of your email and will reply on Wednesday. He'd like to
respond sooner, but is now out of the business until then.
You'll hear from us again soon.
Kind regards,
Mark Wright
Customer Relations Management
Thank you for your message.
Dear Kelly,
Paul has asked me to contact you once again and thank you for taking the time to contact us with your feedback about our car park polices.
Paul agrees there are opportunities to develop our polices and is currently looking into this with our car park planning team. Once this has been done, we'll get back to you with the outcome.
Paul would like to thank you for your offer of help and he feels this will help us a lot. Paul feels any chance to improve our service to customers should be fully embraced.
Regards,
Mark Wright
Customer Relations Management
I had heard nothing from anyone for a week, so to ensure that everyone was still aware that I want to get this resolved I sent this to Andy Bond (CEO Asda (Wal-Mart UK)) and also to Lee Scott (CEO Wal-Mart).
Gentlemen
Can
I please thank you for passing on my email again to have the disabled Parking
space issue at Weymouth looked at again.
I hope that your ‘Mark Wright’ will now not try to
fob me off or close the conversation again before the issue is resolved.
I am
currently waiting for a response from the Parking team. I hope that this will
not be too long as a simple visit to the store should get it resolved for
Weymouth and I hope that you will then use the same policy across the country in
all the Asda stores.
Once this issue has been resolved I would really
like the manager of the Weymouth store to actually respond to my original
complaint that was logged in his complaints book back in January.
As it seems he must ignore his complaints book or
this really could have been resolved over 6 months ago.
Anyway, thank you again
for supporting me in this issue and I hope that it is now brought to a swift
conclusion.
And also to Mark
Sent:
11 June 2007 12:43
To: Mark Wright
Subject: RE: Response
from ASDA (Ref #000000016159443)
Hi Mark
Many thanks for your email. I trust it will not be too long before a response is given with respect to my previous questions and comments. Thank you again for help in this matter. I now hope that we can now bring it to the correct conclusion for everyone effected.
Regards
Hi Kelly,
Thanks for your email and those to my colleagues Lee and Andy. As you
know, Paul is reviewing our policy and will be in contact when this is
completed. This is likely to be several weeks due to the process involved.
I'm sorry we can't do this more quickly - we'll contact you again when we've
completed this process.
Regards,
Mark
Wright
Hi Kelly,
Mark has forwarded me your contact in relation to our Disabled Parking Spaces at
ASDA.
I am currently reviewing our policy in relation to the management of our
specialist parking bays across the estate, and will be in contact with you as
soon as this process is complete.
Thank you for your feedback which I will consider as part of the decision making
process.
Paul
Paul HedleySo we will have to wait now until we here from them. In the mean time I have emailed TCP to see if they are prepared to let me know what is happening. On each occasion I have emailed them, they simply say that they will pass my comments on to Asda. So today I sent another to them and here it is:
Hi Elaine
I just
asking to see if you have any news on the Asda disabled parking space issues in
Weymouth’s Asda. This has now gone on for just over 6 months and I really
think it is time that some sort of decision is made. Every time I ask you, you
pass my messages on to Asda. You have never got back to me with any
answers from them or more to the point from yourselves.
Will you
please let me know if you intend to change anything or you are just going to
allow the abuse to continue in Asda car parks across Great Britton that you
patrol. This will not be an isolated issue I am sure, so any policy needs
to be made country wide.
I have
asked for another update from Asda and Lee-Scott, CEO of Wall-mart world wide as
I feel that nothing is being done on this issue, so come on, please join them
and lets try and get this issue resolved here in Weymouth and also across the
country.
From:
Elaine
Sent: 14 June 2007
10:52
To:
Kelly
Subject: RE: Disabled
Parking Policy (Asda)
Apologies
for my delay in replying, I have been out of the office up until today. Your
further email was forwarded to me by my colleague this morning. I have
forwarded all your email correspondence to the Car Park Team at Asda House.
Sent: 14 June 2007 13:35
To: Elaine
Subject: RE: Disabled Parking Policy (Asda)
I am asking you what your company are doing in this
matter. I know what Asda are saying but I need to know what your telling
your staff to do in the interim of any policy change at Asda.
If you are doing nothing or are continuing to allow
discrimination between who you do and do not fine for parking offences in the
disabled spaces, then so be it for now but I would like to know your side as it
is your attendants that will be looking at the discrimination charge if one was
brought in the first instance and then you and Asda secondly. I hope that
it does not happen but without any immediate changes you could be heading in to
some possible trouble waters with the current state of the actions of your
attendant and the signage on the site as well as other sites you may manage for
Asda and other companies on so called Private land with public access (grey area
in law).
Thank you.
No response to date, still waiting to hear what TCP as a company are doing in this matter..........
Out of the blue came and email from disabled drivers first, a group who has more clout than me. They read my email, saw the site and hopefully will have a go at Asda from there organisation. Here is the email:
From: shame@disableddriversfirst.co.uk [mailto:shame@disableddriversfirst.co.uk]
From: surfingkelly@googlemail.com
Sent: 12 August 2007 08:08
To: 'Mark Wright'; 'Andy Bond'; 'Lee Scott - External'; 'Elaine
Montgomery'; 'Paul Hedley'
Cc: 'shame@disableddriversfirst.co.uk'
Subject: RE: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000016159443)
Hi Everyone
It’s now been 8 weeks since any response from Asda House or
from TCP and I would like to know if there has been update to this issue at
Weymouth and also across all your patrolled car parks. I have noticed
recently at Weymouth that signs have been cleaned, very nice but the sign
batteries have still not been replaced to warn drivers when they park in the
Space Hog marked bays.
I take it from the cleaning of the signs that some
senior managers have been visiting the site so I have left it a couple of weeks
since I saw this before writing in case it may have been a part of a parking
policy visit. Obviously I was wrong as I have had no reply still.
Can you tell me if you made any changes that will stop the
abuse of your blue badge bays in both Weymouth and all patrolled car parks?
Are you going to make any changes to the Weymouth blue badge parking areas?
Are you going to replace the Space Hog batteries? Are TCP parking
attendants going to be able to issue tickets without the store managers,
greeters or trolley porters being able to revoke them or grant parking
permissions? You really have not answered any of these issues yet and this
has now been going on since January. I still haven’t even had a reply from
the Weymouth store manager from my original complaint in his complaints book!
Well Mark replied with this email full of nothiness, well nothing I didn't expect...
From:
Mark Wright [mailto:Mark.Wright@asda.co.uk]
Sent: 14 August 2007 09:00
To: surfingkelly@googlemail.com
Subject: Response from ASDA (Ref #000000016872824)
Mark
Thank you for your email reply today.
I am not trying to be negative but you have told me nothing
new. You talk about consulting with disabled groups! From what I
have been told from one of these is that there was no comment from the store and
the same from Asda house even after that group offered to help you! I have
copied this email on to all parties as you seem to have only sent your reply to
me and I think they should all see it. You could of course ask me to help
as a part of your changes as a disabled person who uses your store and suffers
the parking problems I am trying to get you to resolve, its only a thought.
I am still waiting for my apology or any contact from the
Weymouth Manager not responding or contacting me back in January. Is this
ever going to happen? And as for the abuse, as I said it is still
happening in some of your stores that I visit and get feed back from around the
country now via my website.
You will probably not tell me exactly what your doing to
stop the abuse and to be honest it can not be more that what you pay TCP for now
as they run the car parks for you (that does not relieve you of the issues),
other than getting you store staff to stop interfering with their jobs by giving
permissions to anyone they feel like to park in blue bade bays. I really
feel deep down that you will keep fobbing me off with vague responses until the
law changes and forces you to treat your car parks in the same manor as public
car parks. This way you wont have to do anything and just put it down to
TCP. I look forward to any law change but as it has only a very small
chance of getting read this year, I doubt if any changes will be made soon.
Because of this I will continue to email and ask you how
your progressing and continue to contact as many disabled groups as I have been
to keep them up to date with the situation and as you know all this could have
been avoided if your Store manager had responded to me from his complaints book
8 months ago (and as I continue to say, still hasn’t).
I would hope to see some improvements in the stores I visit
but without knowing the stores you are trying out the new policy it is difficult
to tell as the abuse is so rife as you know. However I will leave you
alone for a couple of months unless you would like me to be involved with any of
your ideas. I will be monitoring the situation around the south and
collating the info sent to me via my website across the country. This will
give me an idea to how things are going. Hopefully by then you will have
something more positive to tell me and I would had my response from the Weymouth
manager after all this time.
From: Ford [mailto:surfingkelly@googlemail.com]
Sent: 21 January 2008 14:22
To: 'Andy Bond'; 'Lee Scott - External'; 'Elaine Montgomery'; 'Paul
Hedley'; 'Mark Wright'; 'owen.hickey@asda.co.uk'
Cc: 'shame@disableddriversfirst.co.uk'
Subject: Asda Disabled parking bay abuse at Weymouth (still continuing)
Hi
Last September you started your trial of disabled and
mother and child spaces. Last week you again came on breakfast TV
announcing that you intend to expand this trial and then in March commence
across the whole of the country. I can only hope that this will ease the
problem however from the latest information coming to me from the staff at Asda
in Weymouth, this is just going to be a joke.
I would like to know if this TCP/Asda Manager password
routine is country wide? I know your probably unlikely to confirm this but
on checking it would seem so. However as anyone who knows the law or
checks up on it, these tickets are to be treated as an invoice anyway.
They would never stand in court as already shown, so only the stupid would
actually pay them anyway. As the password info has now been run around
Weymouth and everybody is using it, it really defeats any sort of control over
your car park especially the disabled bays. I have seen mobile homes now
parking all weekend at the Harbour end of the car park because they know that
any overstay charge is not enforceable in a court of law.
I have also learnt that your remaining TCP attendant in
your Weymouth store has handed his notice in for not getting any backing from
the Asda Management or from TCP, so that it two attendants in 6 months, not a
very good record considering why they both left. This one for not getting
the backing and the other getting sacked for gross misconduct from my source at
your store after trying to talk to the then Manager on his day off to try to get
a common policy on parking during the recent mini refit. From what I have
heard he received a phone call the following day from someone at TCP saying Asda
no longer wanted him on site. It is a shame, as we already knew that prior
to his dismissal that he was the only attendant that actually wanted the same as
you now require on all your sites, someone to stop the abuse and fine those who
do abuse the car parks. I am still sure that if you had seen his list of
over 300 cautions against 30 actual re-offenders, then he was doing the right
job for everyone back then. I tried to talk to him to get a statement but
he said that he was thoroughly briefed on the DPA by TCP and could not talk to
me or confirm what had been sent to me during his employment or after from my
Asda contacts to my website form. Well that is in the past now and TCP
will now have to train more attendants up as they will not be able to issue
electronic tickets until they have done so. In the mean time it will be a
free for all and as I have said the people of Weymouth are fully aware.
I have stopped shopping there now as I do still find it
hard to get a parking space. I see many other supporters at the Morrisons
store on the other side of town. They now get my £200 a week and also all
the others who are coming with me to Morrisons let alone those who now shop at
Tesco’s and other stores. It is further away for me but at least I can get
a nice wide space to get parked in. I will still continue to campaign to
get better parking facilities for disabled people at your Weymouth store.
If and when we do, I will go back. But while this abuse continues and now
the confirmation that Managers are openly quashing tickets from those who
complain, then there is no chance for your disabled customers to ever get a fair
chance while this method of control is in place. I can only see that the
way to go with this is to have a barrier or ramp type gate as you have in some
of your stores. Without this and Management not abusing the power issued
to them, the abuse of your spaces will continue until the Government pass a law
to make it an offence in English law to park in any designated disabled bay on
or off the highway, public or private roads.
From:
Kelly
Sent: 17 February 2008 16:28
To: 'howard&*^%$£"@asda.co.uk'
Cc: 'Alan Priim'; 'Andy Bond'; 'Lee Scott - External'; 'Elaine
Montgomery'; 'Paul Hedley';
Subject: Disabled parking space abuse in the Weymouth Store
Howard
Please let me introduce myself as I have been asked to contact you direct on your appointment to the Weymouth Store. My name is kelly, I live on Portland and after an accident at work I have been left disabled. Last January I tried to park in one of your disabled spaces in the Weymouth store but was unable as there were non blue badge holders parking in those spaces.
Kelly
He had an out of office sign on his email but it said that he will be back on the 18th Feb, so we will see what he has to say.
From:
Alan Priim
Sent: 20 February 2008 09:43
To: surfingkelly@googlemail.com
Subject: FW: Disabled parking space abuse in the Weymouth Store
Kelly
Thanks for your emails about the parent and child and disabled parking
bays at our Weymouth store.
We have a new store manager at the Weymouth store, Howard Stacey. He is
a member of the local community, and has just moved to ASDA from Morrison's. He
is fully in support of managing the parking bays effectively, and will liaise
with his management team and Town and City Parking to ensure compliance with
policy.
Howard would be willing to meet with you to discuss the problems and
concerns you have.
If you could please call him at the store on 01305 760733 to arrange
this, or if you would be willing to pass your number onto myself, I will pass
this onto Howard to contact you.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact me and if I can be of any
further help please let me know.
Kind regards
Alan Priim
ASDA Directorate Team
From:
Kelly
[mailto:surfingkelly@googlemail.com]
Sent: 20 February 2008 12:50
To: Alan Priim
Subject: RE: Disabled parking space abuse in the Weymouth Store
Alan
Thank you for your email today. I am obviously willing to talk to Howard
and in fact this email was addressed to him to make contact as you suggested.
Howard can call me at home on 01305826978 on Friday if this is OK between 11 and
2 maybe? Or we can make it next week if this is too soon.
I feel that a phone call would be better in the first instance as I would not
like to make a personal call to the store and be singled out by the TCP
attendants and customer service. They may treat me a little different if
they knew my face and I do not want this. If he wants to meet personally,
then may be some neutral ground or at my home on Portland would be better.
Kelly
From:
Alan Priim
Sent: 20 February 2008 16:24
To: Ford
Subject: RE: Disabled parking space abuse in the Weymouth Store
I have passed this over to Howard at the store.
I hope he can resolve this matter for you and if I can help any further please
do not hesitate to contact me again.
Regards
Alan Priim
ASDA Directorate Team
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